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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035595">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have an idea re. speeding up beta nominations...: we can cc t-compiler and do straw polls on the merged PR itself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035598" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035598">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then confirm on meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035636">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035645">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>but do you want to do that async?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035684">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>it could save time on uncontroversial ones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035696">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>you meant so people can vote before the meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035729">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035790">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think there's a lot of room for improvements here :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035802">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can do a huge list of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035821" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035821">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>about this particular one, I'd say cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035826">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> could come into pre-triage and basically say "oh, this is uncontroversial, and everyone is in favor, I will slap beta-accepted on it"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191035830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191035830">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>given that he runs the meeting</p>



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<p>also good for folks who cannot make the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036097" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036097">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">centril</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202020-03-19.20.2354818/near/191035595" title="#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202020-03-19.20.2354818/near/191035595">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I have an idea re. speeding up beta nominations...: we can cc t-compiler and do straw polls on the merged PR itself</p>
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<p>this isn't a bad idea, though I do wonder whether its effectiveness will depend on how far ahead of time pre-triage happens.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036109" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036109">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>e,g,</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036124">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>will it act as impetus to do pre-triage 48 hours ahead of time, say?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036138">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(not that that would be a bad thing. Just different.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036149">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> my thinking was we would start the poll when we slap beta-nominated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036163">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036222">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it might give many days notice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036230">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>the one other issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036248">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't necessarily jump to beta-accepted based on the straw polls</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036309">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the main issue is that sometimes, in the synchronous meetings, someone raises a point that causes the group to sway their opinion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036353">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure; I think that's important for more subtle nominations, but often it's just a delay_span_bug thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036356">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this is largely a reason why I still see a benefit in continuing to process the beta-noms synchronously...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036366">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036445">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>my thinking is that the "I am opposed" would be the more important signals during the async polling proccess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036599">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I sorta get the feeling right now that the beta-nomination process consists of a lot of dead time, where no one says anything, and you wait for folks to +1/-1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding%20up%20beta%20nominations/near/191036708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/speeding.20up.20beta.20nominations.html#191036708">(Mar 18 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>well; that time also involves reading the diff of a PR and whatnot, but people could prepare for that async</p>



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